Kitae:"Cool story.Minor clarification. Avarosa herself was iceborn as were her people. The iceborn really rebelled and defeated the watchers.
It is certainly possible that brand or anivia could have played a role in that confrontation. They are both super old.
Even lissandra’s role is unclear. Gregor clearly served Avarosa but seems unsure as to Lissandra’s loyalties.
All this info can learned from Lissandra’s monologues and Gregor’s VO!
This is a story I would love to fully tell some day. I will share one interesting tidbit. Lissandra is blind, and she was blinded by the Ursine before she became iceborn.”